rtv x1100c won't move

[dieselfuel007]

can you take a pic of the stuff you found in the filter? what condition was your old charge pump in? could the stuff you found in the filter be a part of a failed charge pump?

Well I’m not sure why it just quit all the sudden and I haven’t found the source of the white nylon all the problems I’ve found lead me to believe something has failed I’ve took the charge pump apart and it looked good it’s almost got to be previous failure with the nylon parts I called kubota today and ask for tech support and they said they don’t offer any and to call my dealer I’d love to take pics but I have no clue how to post stuff like that I’ll try later

 

[dieselfuel007]

Any idea what that line on a X1120 hydro does

 

[dieselfuel007]

Also yes all the bearings I’ve looked at are intact the thrust bearings have pitted places in them

 

[aurthuritis]

Any idea what that line on a X1120 hydro does

no sorry. are you sure you didn't get an x1120 transmission???

 

[aurthuritis]

Well I’m not sure why it just quit all the sudden and I haven’t found the source of the white nylon all the problems I’ve found lead me to believe something has failed I’ve took the charge pump apart and it looked good it’s almost got to be previous failure with the nylon parts I called kubota today and ask for tech support and they said they don’t offer any and to call my dealer I’d love to take pics but I have no clue how to post stuff like that I’ll try later

with stuff like the nylon floating around you could have a stuck relief valve. that would cause sudden failure to move. if your valve blocks and plungers are good then bearings and valve plates and those two shells behind the swash plate are probably all you need.

 

[dieselfuel007]

Here’s some pics

 

[dieselfuel007]

Here’s some more these are the white nylon pieces that where in the filter and tank

 

[aurthuritis]

looks to me like there has been water damage in the past and then overheating that melted some of the bearing cages to the race. that swash plate is junk. is there any discoloration on the plungers? were the valve plates warped??? is the inside of the back cover ate up like the swash plate?

 

[dieselfuel007]

no i'm looking at one that come out of an x1120 i 've compared all the parts breakdown and the line on the back that come out of charge pump and the piston behind where the line goes into the case toward the top are the only difference i wonder if their different because the x1100 has ac and would be more prone to stall on hills with the ac on i think your right i need to tear into relief valve and see if it has a problem

 

[aurthuritis]

Here’s some more these are the white nylon pieces that where in the filter and tank

looks like pieces of the bearing cage. look carefully at those bearings to see of there are any thin spots on the cages.

 

[aurthuritis]

no i'm looking at one that come out of an x1120 i 've compared all the parts breakdown and the line on the back that come out of charge pump and the piston behind where the line goes into the case toward the top are the only difference i wonder if their different because the x1100 has ac and would be more prone to stall on hills with the ac on i think your right i need to tear into relief valve and see if it has a problem

that line and piston are the compensator for the swash plate. must use case pressure to activate instead of the spring like on the x1100c. i doubt it has anyting to do with air conditioning or stalling. most likely because the x1120 is quite a bit lighter than the x1100c. performance issue for responsiveness would be my guess. i wonder if the charge pressure on the x1120 is different?

 

[dieselfuel007]

sorry for the bad pics the thrust bearings had oil on them in the pics they aren't discolored like they look like in the pics now that i've figured out how to load pics i can try to take some better one.yes it looks like bearing cage but these bearings aren't missing any i'm thinking i'm just gonna buy the one from the x1120 unless it wouldn't work if performance suffers a little well its no hotrod anyway what are your thoughts on doing this

 

[aurthuritis]

thanks. i was wondering about those pics. since you compared part numbers between the x1100 and the x1120 and the internals are all the same except for the rear cover and oil line it would "probably"work. maybe you can reuse your rear cover on the x1120 transmission to complete the conversion. a question though is since the x1120 is much lighter in weight and there are some obvious differences in the two transmissions i wonder if the pressure values and flow rates differences could be significant? the only way to know this would be to compare the different rates in a wsm for each machine. a little homework might be fruitful???

 

[jbiniak]

I have a wsm in pdf file if you want.

 

[HBTexas]

I have a wsm in pdf file if you want.

I would also be interested in that WSM ,

 

[dieselfuel007]

I would also be interested in that WSM ,

You have a wsm for x1100 or x1120

 

[jbiniak]

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You have a wsm for x1100 or x1120

t is x1100c wsm but file is too large I live in the country no dsl only Satelite Hughes net Sorry

 

[dieselfuel007]

got it in does the exact same thing makes the same noise doesn't move what else could it be collapsed suction line?

 

[aurthuritis]

got what in? the wsm or the salvaged hst?

 

[aurthuritis]

there is an input shaft that goes through the gearcase and into the hst. i am pretty sure it has a splined coupler on it inside the gearcase. check the wsm for sure though because i could be confusing the 1100 transmission with the x1100.