Warn XT30, Vantage 3000-s or ProVantage 3500-s?

[Rod1]

Hi, everybody.

Which are the differences between Warn winches XT30, Vantage 3000-s and ProVantage 3500-s? Aside from 500 lb more for the last one, of course.

Which one would be the best for an RTV900?

I will use the RTV on very steep clayish hills at high altitude (5000 to 8500 ft).

Thanks for the input.

 

[Heatwave]

Just a suggestion, Mate: shop for a 5000# winch. Your RTV900 tips the scales right at 2000#. Add in a few pounds for fuel, oil, lubes, then add some more for yourself and a passenger, throw some junk in the bed ... you're gonna max out a 3000# winch.

As I said: just a suggestion.

 

[D&D Farm]

I have a Warn some kind of 3000 lb winch on my 900 and I can't complain about it one bit. I have used it for pulling up steep inclines on clay and in my set of woods to get me out of trouble when I run out of traction due to my choice of work site tires. Don't get started about that please........Anyway, I dont know about the other manufacturers that yes, come in cheaper; but my Warn hooked right up to existing wiring, has the remote that bolts to the bottom of the dash, and fits the pre-threaded place for it in the front grill.......CAN'T nor WON't complain about it as I have used it for pulling 36" oak and hickory logs out of the woods so I can load the RTV where I cut them up or even pulled a few stumps and neighbors out of slick spots with their 4 wheel drive yuppy mobiles.........Only thing I would suggest is to get a synthetic cable instead of the wire cable. I am waiting for one of these days to replace my wire one as the synthetic is a lot easier to maintain, reel in and out, and take care of............God bless......Dennis

 

[Rod1]

Just a suggestion, Mate: shop for a 5000# winch. Your RTV900 tips the scales right at 2000#. Add in a few pounds for fuel, oil, lubes, then add some more for yourself and a passenger, throw some junk in the bed ... you're gonna max out a 3000# winch.

As I said: just a suggestion.

Hi, Heatwave.

OK, it's a sound suggestion, but my question was intended for these three different series in spite of their capacity.

So, which are the differences between XT40, Vantage 4000-s and ProVantage 4500-s, aside from 500 lb more for the last one?

Thanks for the input.

 

[Rod1]

I have a Warn some kind of 3000 lb winch on my 900 and I can't complain about it one bit. I have used it for pulling up steep inclines on clay and in my set of woods to get me out of trouble when I run out of traction due to my choice of work site tires. Don't get started about that please........Anyway, I dont know about the other manufacturers that yes, come in cheaper; but my Warn hooked right up to existing wiring, has the remote that bolts to the bottom of the dash, and fits the pre-threaded place for it in the front grill.......CAN'T nor WON't complain about it as I have used it for pulling 36" oak and hickory logs out of the woods so I can load the RTV where I cut them up or even pulled a few stumps and neighbors out of slick spots with their 4 wheel drive yuppy mobiles.........Only thing I would suggest is to get a synthetic cable instead of the wire cable. I am waiting for one of these days to replace my wire one as the synthetic is a lot easier to maintain, reel in and out, and take care of............God bless......Dennis

Hi, D&D.

All those three I mentioned have synthetic rope. I'd like to know their differences.

Thanks for the input.

 

[TWO GUNS]

Rod1,
We are running a Ramsey 3000# on the RTV 900.

Ramsey is a good winch. But still, there are many others just as good or better.
You have Warn, Ramsey, Chicago, Mile Marker, Superwinch, Harbor Freight, Smittybuilt, T-Max, Driver, Dayton ..... the list goes on & on.


They all are good. ALWAYS use a snatch block, and double your pulling power. And it will also keep your winch from laboring so much.

All winch manufactures have many options. Remote, wire-less remote, free-spooling, brakes, etc ... etc ....
Find the winch that serves YOUR applications.

Another note: Always throw a towel, rags, coat over your winch line during winching. In case line snaps, comes loose, or something goes crazy, the line will not kill you or hurt your equipment .....


Will see if I can find the review on winches once that was read. It was very interesting ......

............. two guns

Post Script:

The Gear Train in a winch. TIt's the muscle of the winch. After the motor starts running, it sends energy to the gear train, where it gets amplified into huge hauling power. The two most common types of gear trains are planetary and worm. In a planetary gear train, multiple gears spin together, creating faster pulling speeds and warmer temperatures. In a worn gear train, there are only two heavy-duty gears, which deliver incredible strength.

 

[Rod1]

Rod1,
We are running a Ramsey 3000# on the RTV 900.

Ramsey is a good winch. But still, there are many others just as good or better.
You have Warn, Ramsey, Chicago, Mile Marker, Superwinch, Harbor Freight, Smittybuilt, T-Max, Driver, Dayton ..... the list goes on & on.


They all are good. ALWAYS use a snatch block, and double your pulling power. And it will also keep your winch from laboring so much.

All winch manufactures have many options. Remote, wire-less remote, free-spooling, brakes, etc ... etc ....
Find the winch that serves YOUR applications.

Another note: Always throw a towel, rags, coat over your winch line during winching. In case line snaps, comes loose, or something goes crazy, the line will not kill you or hurt your equipment .....


Will see if I can find the review on winches once that was read. It was very interesting ......

............. two guns

Post Script:

The Gear Train in a winch. TIt's the muscle of the winch. After the motor starts running, it sends energy to the gear train, where it gets amplified into huge hauling power. The two most common types of gear trains are planetary and worm. In a planetary gear train, multiple gears spin together, creating faster pulling speeds and warmer temperatures. In a worn gear train, there are only two heavy-duty gears, which deliver incredible strength.

Hi, TWO GUNS.

Yes, I'll buy a snatch block for that.

I've read about the towel, but where should I put it? Nobody may say where the rope will brake, so one of the fragments, or both, will lash. It seems to me it's an apparently great idea but not realistic.

About gear trains, I think I've only found planetary ones during my search. Which brand or model has worn type?

I look forward to this review you talked about.

And I still hope somebody who knows the difference between those three Warn winch series.

Thank you very much for your kind help.

 

[bczoom]

Rod - Does Warn provide a list of the differences between those 3 models?

If you use the rope instead of the cable, a towel isn't needed as it retains no stretch/pressure. If it breaks, it falls to the ground.

 

[Rod1]

Rod - Does Warn provide a list of the differences between those 3 models?

If you use the rope instead of the cable, a towel isn't needed as it retains no stretch/pressure. If it breaks, it falls to the ground.

Hi, bczoom.

I've not seen that list. They describe the winches but I don't see clearly which are the differences.

Yes, I've read the towel is not necessary with synthetic rope, but my doubt on its utility to prevent the accident with wire still persist.

Thnks for the input.

 

[Doc]

Here is a link to the Warn factory outlet that might help. I started reading it looking for out and out comparisons and found none, but they do list special purpose winches. Seeing which category they put those 3 winches in will help answer your questions I'd guess.
http://www.warnfactoryoutlet.com/Winches/
above did not work right off. I had to change it to:
http://www.warnfactoryoutlet.com/ and once there click on winches. One way or the other will get you there.

 

[Doc]

Here are the spec sheets for the vantage and provantage.

Provantage has a lifetime warranty is the only difference that stands out to me so far.

The Warn ProVantage 3500-S is a winch that is huge on power and features. This Winch has a 3,500 lb. pulling capacity. This powersports winch is reliable and gets the big jobs done. With durability, this winch works and plays as hard as you do.

Warn ProVantage 3500-S Winch todays price: $579
3,500 lb. Pulling Capacity
50' of 3/16" Synthetic Rope
Double Powder Coated Hawse Fairlead
Hook
Tie Rods
Attractive Body Feature
Corrosion Resistant Black Finish
Three Stage Planetary Gear Train (smooth operation)
Ergonomic Clutch Handle
Patented Roller Disc Brake (control while winching)
Fully Sealed Motor
Fully Sealed Drive Train (keeping elements out)
All Metal Gear Housing
All Metal Gears
Limited Lifetime Warranty (North America)
3 Year Electrical Warranty (North America)

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The Warn Vantage 3000-s has big power at low cost! This winch is a great choice for moving loads or recovering vehicles at a 3,000 lb. pulling capacity. Add the muscle with a budget price!

Warn Vantage 3000 S Todays Price $359
3,000 lb. Pulling Capacity
50' of 3/16" Synthetic Rope
Black Powder-Coated Hawse Fairlead
Fully Sealed Motor
Fully Sealed Drive Train (keeping elements out)
Three Stage Planetary Gear Train (smooth operation)
Mechanical Spring Brake (control while winching)
High Strength Composite Gear Housing
All Metal Gears
Includes Handlebar Mounted Mini Rocker Switch
Corded Remote Control
5 Year Mechanical Warranty (North America)
1 Year Electrical Warranty (North America)

 

[Doc]

Here are the stats for the XT-30.

Description:
XT30; Extreme Terrain Winch; 3000 lbs/1360 kg.; 12V DC Motor; Riders looking for the most extreme winch on the ATV market will want the XT30. It has a 3,000 lb. line capacity to pull the biggest ATVs; a wireless control system with a 50' range for increased winching options; a short-throw clutch, and 50' of lightweight and easy-to-handle synthetic rope-great for vehicle recovery and plow lifting. Full winch sealing helps keep the elements out, and the all-metal 3-stage planetary geartrain will run smoothly for years. The patented disc brake provides enhanced braking performance, and the efficient electrical system minimizes battery drain.

Features:

3,000 lb. line capacity to pull the biggest ATVs todays price: $439
A wireless control system with a 50' range for increased winching options
A short-throw clutch
50' of lightweight and easy-to-handle synthetic rope-great for vehicle recovery and plow lifting
Full winch sealing helps keep the elements out
The all-metal 3-stage planetary geartrain will run smoothly for years
The patented disc brake provides enhanced braking performance
The efficient electrical system minimizes battery drain.

No obvious winner. With a little luck someone will check in who has used one or two of these puppies.

 

[TWO GUNS]

Hi, TWO GUNS.

Yes, I'll buy a snatch block for that.

I've read about the towel, but where should I put it?

Just Lay or drape it across the cable mid-way ... IT WORKS !!!!


About gear trains, I think I've only found planetary ones during my search. Which brand or model has worn type?

Don't worry much about this, all here have planetary. This is what you will get. You won't be running a PTO winch on your side by side....

And I still hope somebody who knows the difference between those three Warn winch series.

Contact Warn or some Warn representative. He will go in-depth with you
on the difference.

.

.............. two guns

 

[bczoom]

A couple things pop to mind in reading those specs.

First, make sure you use the right fairlead. Howse for syn. rope, roller for cable.

Mechanical vs disk or other non-mechanical brake. I'm going from memory here and you would need to look at it closer. As I recall, with a mechanical brake, if you put a load on the winch then stop winching, it'll hold the load. With a non-mechanical brake, it may slowly let out and release the pressure. For many, the latter is fine but if you want to hang your RTV from your tree/tree stand so it's close by when hunting, you may want a mechanical brake.

 

[Doc]

The wireless remote sure could be an advantage ....as long as it worked.

 

[bczoom]

The wireless remote sure could be an advantage ....as long as it worked.

It sure is. I'd say 80% of my winching is done via the remote.

 

[Rod1]

Here are the stats for the XT-30.

Description:
XT30; Extreme Terrain Winch; 3000 lbs/1360 kg.; 12V DC Motor; Riders looking for the most extreme winch on the ATV market will want the XT30. It has a 3,000 lb. line capacity to pull the biggest ATVs; a wireless control system with a 50' range for increased winching options; a short-throw clutch, and 50' of lightweight and easy-to-handle synthetic rope-great for vehicle recovery and plow lifting. Full winch sealing helps keep the elements out, and the all-metal 3-stage planetary geartrain will run smoothly for years. The patented disc brake provides enhanced braking performance, and the efficient electrical system minimizes battery drain.

Features:

3,000 lb. line capacity to pull the biggest ATVs todays price: $439
A wireless control system with a 50' range for increased winching options
A short-throw clutch
50' of lightweight and easy-to-handle synthetic rope-great for vehicle recovery and plow lifting
Full winch sealing helps keep the elements out
The all-metal 3-stage planetary geartrain will run smoothly for years
The patented disc brake provides enhanced braking performance
The efficient electrical system minimizes battery drain.

No obvious winner. With a little luck someone will check in who has used one or two of these puppies.

Hi, Doc.

Thanks for your interest.

I finally got the information from Warn. They say the XT30 and the ProVantage 35-s winches are virtually the same, except the PV35-s has a 1.4 hp motor, and the XT30 a 0.9 hp motor. Both of them have all metal construction including the gear housing.

The Vantage 3000 has a spring brake to hold the load and the gear housing is made of a composite material to save on cost, the gears are all metal. So, maybe this one would be enough for me, because I'd use it only if I can't climb "my" critical hill, and I'll avoid full load in rainy period because of clayish soil.

 

[Rod1]

.............. two guns

Hi, TWO GUNS.

Thanks for the input.

I just saw a video on Youtube with a 4WD stuck in mud. A wire and a synthetic strap got broken but finally the car was freed.

 

[Rod1]

A couple things pop to mind in reading those specs.

First, make sure you use the right fairlead. Howse for syn. rope, roller for cable.

Mechanical vs disk or other non-mechanical brake. I'm going from memory here and you would need to look at it closer. As I recall, with a mechanical brake, if you put a load on the winch then stop winching, it'll hold the load. With a non-mechanical brake, it may slowly let out and release the pressure. For many, the latter is fine but if you want to hang your RTV from your tree/tree stand so it's close by when hunting, you may want a mechanical brake.

Hi, bczoom.

Thanks for the input.

About fairlead and roller, I know synthetic rope would get damaged if catched in the roller, but I've seen all horizontal tubes of the roller are longer than vertical ones, so it seems to me it's impossible to get catched. There are some winches that are sold with synthetic rope and rollers; is it aberrant?

 

[TWO GUNS]

Rod1,
Have you purchased your side by side yet ?
We all got our eyes on you >>>>

............ two guns

Post Script:

Be careful hooking up your "New Winch", don't want things to go wrong
like the pic below ........