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striperfisher
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I will be checking my new x900 today. It on has like 9 hrs on it at this point but ill get back with yal today
rapracing
Member
Being they are finding it on new machines sitting on the floor I'd be surprised if there is no play in it.
TWO GUNS
Senior Member
Plans are to go today and test drive a new RTV1100C at the dealership. And see what I find. Then, I'm going to ask the dealership and see what they know about the the "problem", or see if Kubota has contacted them about anything.
I am dying to hear their response and their reaction.
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I am dying to hear their response and their reaction.
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striperfisher
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Ime betting kubota dont do shit about it we will see
This is a big mess up by Kubota.. I don't see how they can ignore this one . Bad publicity needs to be kept alive.. and don't let it sleep until permanently fixed. Remember the drive shaft clatter, my old owner friends, that caused wear over time,Not just the shaft itself but on the splined shaft coming out of the transmission? After a few years of driving and replacing the ujointed shaft a few times at my own expense,guess who was stuck with that after day 366! collie
striperfisher
Member
Jst jacked up my x900 in the shop. The front has zero play. The back however has 1/4 to 3/8 of play in both sides. So much for it being designed into the machine
rapracing
Member
I didn't think mine had play on the front until I checked the second time. The movement on the front of mine is in the control arm (a-arm). Where the arm goes into the mount on the frame it moves front to rear about 3/16 of an inch. I have a video of it but I am not sure how to post it here.
striperfisher
Member
Yes mine is a 2014 x900 new model this year
Rapracing,
From looking at a parts diagram there are 6 parts common on top and bottom A arms, bushing part 040 K7591-1745-2, both top and bottom have a collar between the bushing, part 050-K7591-1866-3 lower and 050- K7591-1867-2 upper, can you tell whether it is the bushing wearing causing the play or the collar or just manufactured with too much tolerance?
Reverse engineering may be the only answer to solving Kabota's problem for them, measure play on a new one and then measure play on a used one with more hours and figure out which part is wearing too quickly or built with way to much tolerance to begin with., take the problem back to them with some evidence and possibly get further with it than a reply like "they are built this way to do it". Corporate risk analysis on problems that are potential safety and life and death which could happen even at 30 MPH top speed and the front end falls off due to wear of key components is not good for any of us nor them as a corporation.
From looking at a parts diagram there are 6 parts common on top and bottom A arms, bushing part 040 K7591-1745-2, both top and bottom have a collar between the bushing, part 050-K7591-1866-3 lower and 050- K7591-1867-2 upper, can you tell whether it is the bushing wearing causing the play or the collar or just manufactured with too much tolerance?
Reverse engineering may be the only answer to solving Kabota's problem for them, measure play on a new one and then measure play on a used one with more hours and figure out which part is wearing too quickly or built with way to much tolerance to begin with., take the problem back to them with some evidence and possibly get further with it than a reply like "they are built this way to do it". Corporate risk analysis on problems that are potential safety and life and death which could happen even at 30 MPH top speed and the front end falls off due to wear of key components is not good for any of us nor them as a corporation.
PrimeTime327
Member
Hey guys!
My X-11 goes in the shop Monday for disassembly!
I will let y'all know something as soon as possible.
Gary
My X-11 goes in the shop Monday for disassembly!
I will let y'all know something as soon as possible.
Gary
Primetime327 - Great news on the disassembly, maybe they get a brand new one in the shop at the same time take the same parts off and see what they need to step up to and fix. At the least one dealer does it and documents it and gets it back to the "palace of pure thought" in GA for review since they seem incapable of doing it themselves.
Next step may be a "homecoming in mass drive to the factory", wonder how long that would take me to do 2500 miles and how many suspension replacements to get there????? Just drive from dealer to dealer that might work.
Richard
Next step may be a "homecoming in mass drive to the factory", wonder how long that would take me to do 2500 miles and how many suspension replacements to get there????? Just drive from dealer to dealer that might work.
Richard
rapracing
Member
Based on what I have seen and heard from my dealer it is the way they are built. Too much tolerance in a few places. That tolerance will lead to wear in the bushings, etc.
TWO GUNS
Senior Member
You can forget about getting a honest answer at some of these dealerships. For I hit two of them, and called a third.
Not even going to start there !!!
Not going to start posting anything negitive ....
I am so damn pissed ~~~~~~~
People with machines that have problems. I will be praying hard for you,
for you are going to need it !!! Pray that they find some sort of fix for
your machine !!!
Dammit, I just can't shake my anger on this !!!!
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Not even going to start there !!!
Not going to start posting anything negitive ....
I am so damn pissed ~~~~~~~
People with machines that have problems. I will be praying hard for you,
for you are going to need it !!! Pray that they find some sort of fix for
your machine !!!
Dammit, I just can't shake my anger on this !!!!
............ two guns
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TWO GUNS
Senior Member
"THINK" it's on the new "X" models .... some other members will bail in here and
correct me if I'm wrong ....
I have not heard of any other problems other that a fuel cap problem for a few years. Seems like there was some come off the line with a shaft jingle, but that was no biggie .... No major problems.
But this, there is no words that can desribe this screw up ....
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rapracing
Member
Well I got the machine back yesterday.
The dealer said they "did not" do anything in the front. I thought he had told me on the phone they put shims in to keep it from moving front to rear but I guess not. He said the rep did not want to do anything that is the way the want it. I took it for a ride last evening on a bit of a rough road. Traveling 5-8MPH and it thumps just like it did before. I am 99% sure that is in the front end.
They did however put shims in the rear where the pins go through the hub. He said that took all the movement out of the rear wheel (will jack it up a little later today and check that). He said it was "nylon" bushings in the hub. Not sure if I read on hear or the other forum but supposedly they are rubber? I don't know if they changed them to nylon or what happened there.
I guess I am still not sure what I should do. The old machine shows some signs of wear and tear but less that 400 hours. I guess I could but a little money in it and have a good machine for a whole lot less money.
The dealer said they "did not" do anything in the front. I thought he had told me on the phone they put shims in to keep it from moving front to rear but I guess not. He said the rep did not want to do anything that is the way the want it. I took it for a ride last evening on a bit of a rough road. Traveling 5-8MPH and it thumps just like it did before. I am 99% sure that is in the front end.
They did however put shims in the rear where the pins go through the hub. He said that took all the movement out of the rear wheel (will jack it up a little later today and check that). He said it was "nylon" bushings in the hub. Not sure if I read on hear or the other forum but supposedly they are rubber? I don't know if they changed them to nylon or what happened there.
I guess I am still not sure what I should do. The old machine shows some signs of wear and tear but less that 400 hours. I guess I could but a little money in it and have a good machine for a whole lot less money.