Just got back from viewing and pricing the 3316 and 3535. The 3316 was in the neighborhood with incentives- of just less than 18 cash. The 3535 was shy of 21cash. I did see a Kioti ck 35 with special loader deal for less than 16. I will switch over to the Kioti forum now to keep info sorted for other viewers. I like the price of the Kioti . What do ya'll think? Thanks! Bordercollie