My sons house is on the next road to me. His land and mine join however there are some very difficult wet spots to get through. It would be much easier to avid these spots by going on the road for a couple of hundred yards but I not sure about the legality of riding an RTV on the roads. Does anybody now for sure if it is legal. in NY State. I have a slow moving sign I use on my farm tractors and I know its ok for them but not sure about RTV.
use of RTV in N.Y.State roads
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How is your RTV listed , down here in Louisiana,mine islisted as a Farming / Agricultural unit , that's the catch >>>></P>
So I checked with my neighbor, who works for the La. State Police, and he stated as long as I don't get on a interstate highway. And stay to the right of the hwy, we may run the unit anywhere we want, as long as the driver has a valid drivers licence, and obeys the rules of the road, including wearing seat belts >>> But the most important thing , have that safety triangle on the unit . Everything is null & void if that triangle is not attached to the unit >>>>>>></P>
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So I checked with my neighbor, who works for the La. State Police, and he stated as long as I don't get on a interstate highway. And stay to the right of the hwy, we may run the unit anywhere we want, as long as the driver has a valid drivers licence, and obeys the rules of the road, including wearing seat belts >>> But the most important thing , have that safety triangle on the unit . Everything is null & void if that triangle is not attached to the unit >>>>>>></P>
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To my knowledge there is no ( listing) for a RTV. I have only used it on my farm and it has never left my property since being punched. If there is a listing process in N.Y. for RTV's I am unaware of it. I am hoping it is considered a farm vehicle I know it does not fit the NY state definition of a ATV. them I know are not allowed on NY roads.
RTV's are ATV's in Maine, we are allowed 300 yards on roads, no distance on limited access highways. Does NY reconise Polaris Ranger, Yamaha Rino, Kawasaki mule. When I registered my Kubota RTV, they had to call DOT to find out what it was. It was added to the fore mentioned group. $35 per year.
From having conversations with my friend, most states will not allow recreational vehicles on the road at all ....</P>
RTV is a listed as a UTV </P>
The RTV is not considered as a recreational vehicle in 95 % of the states , he says some states considers them several different things, farm / agri machines , utility vehicles, emergency vehicles , and there were several more, just don't remember at this moment, but it seems like it was something like nine different listing for the RTV .... </P>
ATV's are mostly considered as recreational vehicles in just about all states.</P>
As we all know, different states plays by different rules >>>>>> </P>
Heck, I'd just slip down the road, andhave some paper work handy to show them if someone says something, that this is a farm / utility vehicle, NOT A RECREATIONAL VEHICLE !!!</P>
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RTV is a listed as a UTV </P>
The RTV is not considered as a recreational vehicle in 95 % of the states , he says some states considers them several different things, farm / agri machines , utility vehicles, emergency vehicles , and there were several more, just don't remember at this moment, but it seems like it was something like nine different listing for the RTV .... </P>
ATV's are mostly considered as recreational vehicles in just about all states.</P>
As we all know, different states plays by different rules >>>>>> </P>
Heck, I'd just slip down the road, andhave some paper work handy to show them if someone says something, that this is a farm / utility vehicle, NOT A RECREATIONAL VEHICLE !!!</P>
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Hi JohnR, I also have the SMV on my RTV. I zip down the road but always give way to the occasional car/truck. How busy is your road? I f I see a vehicle coming, I get over so they don't have to slow down.No complaints so maybe they will leave me alone. It's like TwoGuns says. just slip down there and don't have a parade and they shouldn't get on your case. I did pay sales tax on this thing because according to the revenue people, it must have a pto to be agricultural (non taxed). Bordercolllie[&]
John,
I don't know where NY is on the UTV registrations. They've been messed up on UTV's for years. Surprised? The RTV's weight is what makes it not qualify for registration (although the law is that they're to be registered). Basically, they made a law requiring registration but the state hasn't developed a way to do it.
Unlike other states, to my knowledge NY doesn't have a clause defining how far you can travel down a road (e.g. 300 yards) before having to get off. I believe NY's rule is cross at 90 degrees unless that section of road is posted as being designated for ATV use.
I'd propose you use due-diligence and attempt to get it registered. Keep track/copies of all correspondence with the state. Either they register it or not. My guess is they don't.
Then, go to whatever police department patrols those roads. If they didn't get you registered, take the copies of the correspondence with the state to show them. Then ask their thoughts of driving on the road (and I'd mention the road(s) you would travel). Most that I've heard of will say go ahead and do it, just be safe.
I don't know where NY is on the UTV registrations. They've been messed up on UTV's for years. Surprised? The RTV's weight is what makes it not qualify for registration (although the law is that they're to be registered). Basically, they made a law requiring registration but the state hasn't developed a way to do it.
Unlike other states, to my knowledge NY doesn't have a clause defining how far you can travel down a road (e.g. 300 yards) before having to get off. I believe NY's rule is cross at 90 degrees unless that section of road is posted as being designated for ATV use.
I'd propose you use due-diligence and attempt to get it registered. Keep track/copies of all correspondence with the state. Either they register it or not. My guess is they don't.
Then, go to whatever police department patrols those roads. If they didn't get you registered, take the copies of the correspondence with the state to show them. Then ask their thoughts of driving on the road (and I'd mention the road(s) you would travel). Most that I've heard of will say go ahead and do it, just be safe.
<FONT face=Arial>Thank God for rural country areas. Can't comment about New York. I live in a rural area of Idaho where even my road might not qualify as a road in many states. This has it's benefits. Folks around here use whatever form of transportation they have on these roads and for the most part act pretty civil about it all. Slow vehicles share the road with cars and trucks and pull over for folks moving faster (stuff like that). From Horse and Wagon to diesel trucks from motorcylces to all types of 4 wheelers we seem to share the road without problem. Now anyone who thinks it should be acceptable to use these outfits on major high ways (most here in Idaho are still only two lane) need to reconsider. Heck folks use thes roads to move cattle who is going to complain about a RTV. Besides my RTV looks nicer than many of the cars and trucks here.</FONT></P>
<FONT face=Arial>By the way finally got a storm thaty brought enough snow (combined with blowing and drifting) that my RTV couldnt handle it. Seems thatthese RTV's cannot dig themselves out when the snow level rises about the cab level.......... I had to dig (me and the RTV) out with the front end loader on my tractor. I am going to dicuss this with my dealer I thought these RTV's were tough (Just kidding)</FONT></P>
<FONT face=Arial>Contunue to keep this forum as great as it has been. I enjoy the information and great stories shared here.</FONT></P>
<FONT face=Arial>By the way finally got a storm thaty brought enough snow (combined with blowing and drifting) that my RTV couldnt handle it. Seems thatthese RTV's cannot dig themselves out when the snow level rises about the cab level.......... I had to dig (me and the RTV) out with the front end loader on my tractor. I am going to dicuss this with my dealer I thought these RTV's were tough (Just kidding)</FONT></P>
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[quote user="JohnR"]My research has come to the same conclusion as BCZoom. It sure leaves you open to the problem of one police persons benevolence if you unfortunately are seen or reported for being on the road. I sure hate putting myself in that position. What a dilemma.[/quote]
John,
Where do you live in NY?
I went and talked to the local Chief in my area and asked about driving ATVs/UTVs on the roads. He told me he doesn't care if:
1. You stay off the state roads
2. You drive carefully and abide by road rules.
I thanked him and asked if I could have one of his cards (which he provided). I carry it in my wallet, in case one of his officers has a difference of opinion.
If you're driving responsibly, nobody should care. If reported and the LEO asks if your driving crazy and the reporing person says "no", they probably won't even come out to discuss it with you.
Oh, I also make it a point to show up with the RTV anytime there's an off-road police or medical issue nearby. I offer the RTV's services. It's been used to take firemen, their equipment and water in for fires as well as EMT's in for getting injured people out (normally ATV wreck). They appreciate it.
John,
Where do you live in NY?
I went and talked to the local Chief in my area and asked about driving ATVs/UTVs on the roads. He told me he doesn't care if:
1. You stay off the state roads
2. You drive carefully and abide by road rules.
I thanked him and asked if I could have one of his cards (which he provided). I carry it in my wallet, in case one of his officers has a difference of opinion.
If you're driving responsibly, nobody should care. If reported and the LEO asks if your driving crazy and the reporing person says "no", they probably won't even come out to discuss it with you.
Oh, I also make it a point to show up with the RTV anytime there's an off-road police or medical issue nearby. I offer the RTV's services. It's been used to take firemen, their equipment and water in for fires as well as EMT's in for getting injured people out (normally ATV wreck). They appreciate it.
I live in Maine N.Y. That 1/2 way between Endicott and Whitney Point. All that you said I agree with. My machine has head lights,Turn Signals ,Hazard light , safety belts and slow moving sigh. The road I would travel (apprx.200 yards) is a county road. I guess I need to call the police to get a ruling. I was hoping for a response from someone who lives in N.Y. that had 1st hand knowledge of the rules and had already discussed with the law.
I would go see 'em.... Bring them a photo, or the machine to show it's a utility vehicle with all that you decribed .... imagine they would see it better talking to them person to person. It's to easy for folks to say no on a phone line, than to someones face !!! That way, they won'tjust sound like a charging bear, they willlook like one, and the voice of Darth Vader !!!</P>
That's just me, I'm from the south !!!</P>
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That's just me, I'm from the south !!!</P>
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Since it's a county road, is law enforcement done by your local PD or the County Sheriff's department? You may want to talk to both.
[quote user="JohnR"] I was hoping for a response from someone who lives in N.Y. that had 1st hand knowledge of the rules and had already discussed with the law.[/quote]
"I'm not a LEO but I do play one on TV"
or I can say
"I'm not a LEO but I did sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night".
OK, just kidding.
Although I live in PA, I'm kind of familiar with NY.
I lived there for over 25 years. I also rode ATV's regularly and did speak to LEO's about it. Their response was as mentioned. Be careful, safe and don't do it all day (e.g. drive 20 miles down the road to go shopping on your ATV). To qualify this response, it was almost 20 years ago but I "think" they're still OK with it where I was driving as my friends are still doing it.
My entire family still lives there.
My Dad drives a Polaris Ranger. Although it has plates, he still drives down the road. Oh, and when driving down the road, he stops in and visits one of his neighbors (who happens to be the Sheriff). Another of his neighbors is the town Judge. They're both OK with him doing it.
I also have 2 cousins that live about 40 miles from you (Norwich). They're both Corrections Officer. If you want, I'll contact them to see if they can contact your local PD or Sheriff's department but personally, I'd do it myself, just so they recognize you on the road. Heck, if you have a trailer, I'd consider taking the RTV with you to discuss so they can look at the machine themselves (and you can point out all the safety equipment).
[quote user="JohnR"] I was hoping for a response from someone who lives in N.Y. that had 1st hand knowledge of the rules and had already discussed with the law.[/quote]
"I'm not a LEO but I do play one on TV"
or I can say
"I'm not a LEO but I did sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night".
OK, just kidding.
Although I live in PA, I'm kind of familiar with NY.
I lived there for over 25 years. I also rode ATV's regularly and did speak to LEO's about it. Their response was as mentioned. Be careful, safe and don't do it all day (e.g. drive 20 miles down the road to go shopping on your ATV). To qualify this response, it was almost 20 years ago but I "think" they're still OK with it where I was driving as my friends are still doing it.
My entire family still lives there.
My Dad drives a Polaris Ranger. Although it has plates, he still drives down the road. Oh, and when driving down the road, he stops in and visits one of his neighbors (who happens to be the Sheriff). Another of his neighbors is the town Judge. They're both OK with him doing it.
I also have 2 cousins that live about 40 miles from you (Norwich). They're both Corrections Officer. If you want, I'll contact them to see if they can contact your local PD or Sheriff's department but personally, I'd do it myself, just so they recognize you on the road. Heck, if you have a trailer, I'd consider taking the RTV with you to discuss so they can look at the machine themselves (and you can point out all the safety equipment).
JohnR I also live in ny state. We contacted th NY state police and because the top speed of the RTV does not exceed 25 mph it is considered a utility vehicle. All you need is a slow moving orange triangle and you are legal. We run many secondary and primary roads on our rides and have never had any problems. Rtv's are not registerable in NY state because they exceed 1000lbs. I do have full insurance coverageon my Rtv 1100 it's about 200 dollars per year.
They are right about the 1000lbs..>>></P>
Total weight of my RTV 900, is<FONT color=#0000ff size=4><FONT color=#000000 size=5>2120 pounds</FONT><FONT size=3><FONT color=#000000>, </FONT><FONT color=#000000>the way it is rigged out. </FONT></FONT></FONT></P>
Took the weight at the grain elevator scales !!!!</P>
Ramsy winch & steel mount, Kubota OEM glass windshield and metal frame, one Golight search light, four spot lights, two in front, two in back, Kubota OEM bedliner, Seat and steering wheel covers, MarineAM*FM*CD radio with Marine speakers and Marine radio box, Sirus Satellite Radio, four , 27" ITP M/S 589 tires, heavy duty rims, Kubota OEM steel roof top, two reciever hitches with ball & shackles, Kubota OEM High Air Intake, Heavy Duty Safety Emblem on back screen,Tractor Canister, Heavy Duty Slicker suit under hood, Snatch Block under Hood, Overhead Switch Panel full of switches and controls, Remote controls for Golight, Steel overhead Two Gun Rack, Mad Dog Gun Scabbard on the back mesh ...>>>>>>>> and a full tank of fuel ~~~ think thats all ***</P>
Have a sliding back glass ordered, that should add a couple of pounds to it >></P>
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Total weight of my RTV 900, is<FONT color=#0000ff size=4><FONT color=#000000 size=5>2120 pounds</FONT><FONT size=3><FONT color=#000000>, </FONT><FONT color=#000000>the way it is rigged out. </FONT></FONT></FONT></P>
Took the weight at the grain elevator scales !!!!</P>
Ramsy winch & steel mount, Kubota OEM glass windshield and metal frame, one Golight search light, four spot lights, two in front, two in back, Kubota OEM bedliner, Seat and steering wheel covers, MarineAM*FM*CD radio with Marine speakers and Marine radio box, Sirus Satellite Radio, four , 27" ITP M/S 589 tires, heavy duty rims, Kubota OEM steel roof top, two reciever hitches with ball & shackles, Kubota OEM High Air Intake, Heavy Duty Safety Emblem on back screen,Tractor Canister, Heavy Duty Slicker suit under hood, Snatch Block under Hood, Overhead Switch Panel full of switches and controls, Remote controls for Golight, Steel overhead Two Gun Rack, Mad Dog Gun Scabbard on the back mesh ...>>>>>>>> and a full tank of fuel ~~~ think thats all ***</P>
Have a sliding back glass ordered, that should add a couple of pounds to it >></P>
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[quote user="TWO GUNS"]Ramsy winch & steel mount, Kubota OEM glass windshield and metal frame, one Golight search light, four spot lights, two in front, two in back, Kubota OEM bedliner, Seat and steering wheel covers, MarineAM*FM*CD radio with Marine speakers and Marine radio box, Sirus Satellite Radio, four , 27" ITP M/S 589 tires, heavy duty rims, Kubota OEM steel roof top, two reciever hitches with ball & shackles, Kubota OEM High Air Intake, Heavy Duty Safety Emblem on back screen,Tractor Canister, Heavy Duty Slicker suit under hood, Snatch Block under Hood, Overhead Switch Panel full of switches and controls, Remote controls for Golight, Steel overhead Two Gun Rack, Mad Dog Gun Scabbard on the back mesh ...>>>>>>>> and a full tank of fuel ~~~ think thats all ***[/quote]
That's all???? You slacker... why don't you go get some accessories for your RTV. It sounds pretty vanilla from here. [
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That's all???? You slacker... why don't you go get some accessories for your RTV. It sounds pretty vanilla from here. [
][quote user="ddttweeks"]We contacted th NY state police and because the top speed of the RTV does not exceed 25 mph it is considered a utility vehicle. All you need is a slow moving orange triangle and you are legal. We run many secondary and primary roads on our rides and have never had any problems.[/quote]
I'd still check with your local PD for their interpretation. I have never heard of a law in NY that says that a Utility Vehicle has rights on the road with the possible exception of farming activities (that have to be proved if the officer requests).
I'd still check with your local PD for their interpretation. I have never heard of a law in NY that says that a Utility Vehicle has rights on the road with the possible exception of farming activities (that have to be proved if the officer requests).