What i have found out is that Echo bought them out and they do not make chainsaws anymore. I can get the saw for 100.00 but that is what has got me a pile of saws, i have a couple of Stihls,one big one small that i use but i like to tinker i guess you call it and i drag home saws from dealers that people give up on for whatever the reason,usually a fuel line or carb kit wil fix them and i get a little satisfaction doing it. I like to find the Homelite Super XL model, usually i can get them for five or ten bucks and i can bring them back to life and allot of the time they have a good bar and a new chain. I have been using airplane fuel for a couple of years now with good results, i was told it will not go stale and will not harm rubber fuel lines, they call it 100 low led.